Bach Stradivarius New 190 series C trumpet models - 2025
The new Bach Stradivarius 190-series C trumpet models were announced at NAMM in January 2025 and launched to the market in May 2025.
These models were developed with in-depth research of vintage Bach “C” trumpet designs, benchmarking of New York, Mt. Vernon, and early Elkhart “C” trumpets, and combined with in-depth collaboration with Esteban Batallán, Principal Trumpet, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Tine Thing Helseth, International Soloist, and Michael Sachs, Principal Trumpet, The Cleveland Orchestra.
The details and technical specifications below are from the new C trumpet models’ product launch materials (May 2025).
We will continue to add more information to this page as it becomes available.
This specification summary table was released in May 2025, as part of the official launch of the new Bach 190-series C trumpet models. This table provides a good technical comparison of these new Bach Stardivarius 190-series C trumpets.
A copy of the PDF file is available on the BachLoyalist Library.
Source: Conn Selmer, May 2025
” The fully redesigned C190SL229 is the result of extensive testing with Michael Sachs, Principal Trumpet of The Cleveland Orchestra, to create a spectacular trumpet with a rich core that will fill even the largest concert halls. This unique combination of specifications has never before been used on a Bach instrument, offering superior range, quick response, and that classic ‘Elkhart Bach’ C trumpet sound.
Specifications – C190SL229 (May 2025)
- 0.462″ Large Bore
- Two-Piece Valve Casings
- Standard Weight #229 Bell, Round Stainless-Steel Wire, Bottom Seam
- Redesigned #25M Leadpipe
- Bb Tuning Crook Height
- Wide Span Z Braces
- Nickel Outer / Brass Inner Slides
Developer Notes
” This horn has received massive updates to it, designed with Michael Sachs. Wide wrap nickel Z braces, Bottom Seam, Standard weight, yellow brass bell with round steel wire and brand new 25M leadpipe.“
– Andy Lott, former Bach Brass Product Mgr.
” The all-new C190SL229C is the result of a collaboration with Esteban Batallán, Principal Trumpet of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. This project targeted the most famous set of Mt. Vernon C trumpet models that Vincent Bach sold to the Chicago Symphony Orchestra in 1955, specifically the instrument used by the late Adolph “Bud” Herseth, Principal Trumpet of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra from 1948 to 2001. All features of this model combine to provide incredible response, projection, versatility, and the beautiful sound required to perform in the Chicago Symphony Orchestra.
Specifications – C190SL229C (May 2025)
- 0.462″ Large Bore
- Two-Piece Valve Casings
- Mt. Vernon Weight #229 Bell Brass, French-Style Wire, Side Seam
- New #25E Leadpipe
- Short Tuning 1st and 3rd Valve Slides
- Short C Tuning Crook height
- Narrow Span Z Braces
- Nickel Outer / Brass Inner Slides
Developer Notes
” Designed with Esteban Batallán and replaces the C180SL229CC, new 25E leadpipe, narrow wrap nickel Z braces, short height C tuning slide, and shorter length 1st and 3rd slides that are very cool to play. Copied from Herseth’s horn. 1st slide brace. The ‘C’ is for Chicago.“
– Andy Lott, former Bach Brass Product Mgr.
” The all-new C190SL229F is based on the unique New York-era Bach C trumpets (1925–1953) which featured narrow wraps and standard-weight #229 bells with French beads. The new C190SL229F specifications make this instrument extremely responsive, like the New York-era models, while offering a greater breadth of sound, similar to Elkhart models (1965–present).
Specifications – C190SL229F (May 2025)
- 0.462″ Large Bore
- Two-Piece Valve Casings
- Standard Weight #229 Bell Brass, French-Style Wire, Side Seam
- Redesigned #25C Leadpipe
- Short C Tuning Crook Height
- Narrow Span Z Braces
- Nickel Outer / Brass Inner Slides
Developer Notes
” Think of this as replacing the Philly, F is for French bead, very similar to the Chicago, but with a standard weight bell and no brace in the first slide.“
– Andy Lott, former Bach Brass Product Mgr.
” The all-new C190SL229X is inspired by early 1970’s Elkhart designs. While the bore and body of this model are a standard .462″ large bore, it features the Bach “X” bore main tuning slide, which tapers from .462″ to .459″. This provides a brilliant yet broad sound with a lightning-quick response.
Specifications – C190SL229X (May 2025)
- 0.462″ Large Bore
- Two-Piece Valve Casings
- Mt. Vernon Weight #229 Bell, Round Stainless-Steel Wire, Side Seam
- #25H Leadpipe
- Bb Tuning Crook Height
- 0.462″ Bore Main Tuning Slide Top Leg and Crook, 0.459″ Bore Bottom Leg
- Wide Span Z Braces
- Nickel Outer / Brass Inner Slides
Developer Notes
” Lightweight yellow brass side seam 229 bell with round steel wire, new 25H leadpipe, and a unique tuning slide that starts L bore and ends ML bore.“
– Andy Lott, former Bach Brass Product Mgr.
” The all-new C190SL238VF results from our collaboration with international soloist and Bach artist Tine Thing Helseth. This model combines Vincent Bach’s largest C trumpet bell design with the NEW Bach CLV bore size to create a beautiful, efficient, and versatile instrument.
Specifications – C190SL238VF (May 2025)
- 0.462″ Large Bore
- Two-Piece Valve Casings
- Mt. Vernon Weight #238 Bell Brass, French-Style Wire, Side Seam
- Redesigned #25C Leadpipe
- CLV 0.459″ Bore Main Tuning Slide Top Leg and Crook, 0.462″ Bore Bottom Leg
- Short C Tuning Crook height
- Narrow Span Z Braces
- Nickel Outer / Brass Inner Slides
Developer Notes
” Designed with Tine Thing Helseth, lightweight French bead yellow side seam brass 238 bell, narrow Z braces, short height ‘V’ style step bore tuning slide that goes from ML to L. Brace in the 1st slide. This horn plays beautifully.“
– Andy Lott, former Bach Brass Product Mgr.
source: Conn Selmer, May 2025 launch materials
source: Andy Lott, former Bach Brass Product Manager
